Dominion..of INFLUENCE!!!!

Published on March 23, 2006 By NeoWolfen In Game Talk

I've just played the wierdest game of Gal Civ 2 yet, and I gotta say it has me baffled...

gigantic map, me and 6 alien races... within 50 turns or so the Torian confederation falls to the You Collective and hands off its remaining worlds to the Altarians. Some turns later the Drengin are vanquished by the Altarians and give thier worlds to the Thalan Empire (Drengin cant have put up much of a fight they owned a quarter of the galaxy when they handed over thier worlds..odd..but anyway I digress).

My the "New Types" psionically evolved human strain... have founded a fairly large Republic off on one corner of the map, my nearest neighbour is the Dominion of Korx, they delcare war on ym pretty early as Im saintly..and they get pummeled, but I havent gotten Planetary invasion yet so apart from decimating thier fleet entirely I am froced at this time to leave thier worlds alone, simply blockading them and destorying any ships as they make them...eventually the ask for peace and I accept and head back to reinforce my economy and continue building up my starbases around each of my worlds.

through the process of colonisation I have 4 colonies separated from the main body of my others in the corner... 3 together with the terran alliance on one side and the Dominion of Korx and the Yor on the other...and one completely on its own surrounded by the Thalan Empire and the Yor Collective in the middle of the map... anyway forward a few dozen more turns and suddenly half the map is covered in Dominion of Korx Influence? thier borders push mine back despite my maximised influence starbases putting my 4 spearate worlds firmly in thier influence and of course possible rebellion notices tart appearing...

I find this odd however as the Dominion has built ZERO starbases, gained no new colony worlds and the worlds they do have with the exception of two are a long long way from my separated colonies. If you imagine a gigantic map im in the middle of the top half the dominion of in the very top right corner and a little toward the middle of the right hand side (the 2 worlds closest to my separate colonies)..thier radius of influence is covering an immense area.. tech wise they have fewer influence raising techs researched than I do, no influence modifiers via race benefits and no starbases...so im perplexed...

Anyway forward a hundred or so more turns... and suddenly the dominion of korx radius of influence covers the entire map pretty much pushing not only my own influence borders back completely around my separate worls but pushing them back somewhat around my core colonies...as well as those of every other empire... yet again the dominion has gained no new worlds, built no starbases except a handful of resource utilising ones near thier homeworld??????? Worlds from the other empires start reblelling all otver the place and i'm suddenly frantically building a fleet to take thier worlds in order to remove thier influence..

But i just dont get it, how the heck can they possibly get an influence radius that covers an entire gigantic map when thier worlds are as noted mostly in the top right corner and they have no starbases, significant influence techs or influence race benefits?? something is seriously wonky somewhere...

Anyone else had a similar experience?

Comments

Sky42

on Mar 24, 2006

Had a similar bug once when i was going for an influence victory on a huge map. The Drengin were at the far end of the map and I only met them later in the game when I had about 60% of the galaxy under my control. As soon as I got the Drengin's "greeting" message, the entire map turned red.

Thankfully that only lasted 3 or so turns before it reverted back to how it was before.

My best guess is that it's a rare influence calculation bug.

ethicsgradient

on Mar 24, 2006

Maybe they gained influence because everyone else looked like they were trying too hard. Sort of the "Fonzie" method of empire building in action.

Ostsol

on Mar 24, 2006

Sounds like the invasion bug. . . Every-so-often an invasion will result in a trillion people suddenly appearing on the newly conquered world. This produces a monstrous amount of influence which often envelopes a large portion of the map. The next turn the population gets truncated down and a couple turns after that the influence dies down, too. Saving and reloading also fixes this problem.

It's probably fixed in the upcoming 1.1 patch.

Tototot

on Mar 24, 2006

there is a bug being fixed that when someone takes over a world they will have a population of gigantic billions of people, after 3 turns it goes to the planet max.

ethicsgradient

on Mar 24, 2006

Every-so-often an invasion will result in a trillion people suddenly appearing on the newly conquered world.

Wonder how much *that* trade route would be worth.

Kalin

on Mar 24, 2006

Hmmm, well, if it was indeed the bug, you could save and reload and it should be okay again. But aside from the bug I can only think that the Korx got TWO influence expand events (xenophiles?), which essentially double their influence twice, so now they have four times as much as before. It seems like this could be the reason, I've had this event myself plenty of times and culture victory easily. Of course I do usually have some influence techs and lots of people to tax, so it just sped up the inevitable.

NeoWolfen

on Mar 24, 2006

I dont think its the population bug as thier expanded influence has been in place for a few hundred turns now plus ive reloaded a couple of times in order to test it,

There have been a few influence random events though, but they are supposed to affect everyone arent they?

Draknost

on Mar 24, 2006

Pssst, the 'quote' feature is broken at the moment, you have to highlight the text you want to quote, hit quote, the go in between the two "quote" "/quote" items (in [ ] marks instead of " " marks, of course) and ctrl-v to paste your highlighted text you want to quote.

That is all.

Arkans

on Mar 24, 2006

On my first game I was going for a tech victory and all of a sudden the Yor did this to me. The turned purple in huge explosions. I had notices of a new of my planets rebelling, but I managed to research the last tech for the tech victory with like two or three planets out in the rim still under my influence.

Astax

on Mar 24, 2006

You shoudl know that influence bases arent the onyl way to raise your influence, they probably built a lot of infulence buildings and their population exploded.

NeoWolfen

on Mar 24, 2006

You shoudl know that influence bases arent the onyl way to raise your influence, they probably built a lot of infulence buildings and their population exploded.

two or three on each world but no more than I have built and I have about 6 times as many worlds and some 44 influence starbases maxed out... yet my influence covers less than an eight of the galaxy where as theres covered about 80% of the gigantic map.

So certainly they do not have anywhere near anough influence raising means to justify the amount they do have... its very strange.

Periodico

on Mar 24, 2006

Every once in a while this happens to me too. It's just a bug where one race will have ultimate influence over the whole galaxy for a few short turns (it's funny when homeworlds rebel to join the influencer even though they are across the galaxy from one another). However, this long duration of yours scares me. I hate it when I lose a planet to this bug (though I don't mind when I gain one

), so the longer it's in affect the more unbalancing and annoying it could be. But, like others said, just save quit and reload.

Spearthrower

on Mar 24, 2006

Maybe they have got the Reign of the Xenophiles effect going? Sounds very similar to what happens when a player gets it.

NeoWolfen

on Mar 24, 2006

Maybe they have got the Reign of the Xenophiles effect going? Sounds very similar to what happens when a player gets it.

I think it is a couple stacked..that haven't ended for some reason, there cant be any other explanation.. taking one of thier worlds helped a bit though i didnt get the same nice influence radius they got from the planet heh..

annoying though as half my empire is showing the rebellion possible icon when thier influuence should be bouncing off the borders of mine like it was nothing..

ah well guess ill just have to invade them first as opposed to intended last, but wasnt exactly the "Saintly" victory i was looking for

Cikomyr

on Mar 25, 2006

Look at a topic called "influence bubble", I had the same strange thing happening with the Arcaean. But I was in position to fight back their influence. While I build about 10 influence-maxed starbase, with every tech available, I could not make their border flinch.. at least, I protected my own..

until, by miracle, their influenced dropped to a normal level. My Arcaean and your Dominion probably got a random influence event. While you lost because of it, it paved my way to victory. when things returned to normal, MY influenced legitly spread all around the galaxy. Only the drengin weren't in my sphere, but once I captured the minor races' planet at the center of their empires, they were mine for the taking. Just had to click "next turn" until victory.

Yhea.. random events can change a game...

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